风雨密门强度的要求

lrff

参照ABS规范要求，外部风雨密门强度至少需要与结构舱壁强度一致，如何跟ABS澄清不需要满足这项要求。
Part       3    Hull Construction and Equipment
Chapter  2    Hull Structures and Arrangement
Section   11  Superstructures, Deckhouses and Helicopter Decks

5 Enclosed Superstructures and Deckhouses
5.1 Openings in Bulkheads
All openings in the exposed bulkheads of enclosed superstructures and deckhouses are to be provided with
efficient means of closing so that in any sea condition water will not penetrate the vessel. Opening and
closing appliances are to be framed and stiffened so that when closed the whole structure is equivalent in
strength to the unpierced bulkhead.
5.3 Doors for Access Openings (2022)
Doors for access openings into enclosed superstructures and deckhouses are to be made either of steel,
aluminum or fiber reinforced plastic (if in compliance with statutory regulations and operational
requirements) and are to be permanently attached to the bulkhead. Scantlings for door panels and stiffeners
or swages are to be obtained from 3-2-11/3.3 & 3.5 or 3-2-11/3.6 based on the design head of the bulkhead
where the door is located. Minimum thickness requirements in 3-2-11/3.3 or 3-2-11/3.6 for exposed
bulkheads are to be applied to panels of doors located on exposed bulkheads of superstructure and
deckhouses at and below Position 2 and to doors located on the exposed front bulkhead at all levels. The
doors are to be provided with gaskets and clamping devices, or other equivalent arrangements and the
doors are to be so arranged that they can be operated from both sides of the bulkhead. Doors located above
Position 2 (refer to 3-2-15/3.1) of superstructure and deckhouses are to have strength compatible to
adjacent bulkheads and may be of joiner-type construction, e.g. thin gauge steel sheeting surrounding a
mineral wool core, provided they are verified to be weathertight to the satisfaction of the attending
Surveyor.

hugh777

风雨密的要求是针对“风雨密性能”，而不是“强度”。风雨密是通过喷水试验来验证的，只要能通过试验，就能确定其“风雨密性能”了。而且这样的试验是作为产品型式认可的关键，也就是说，只要风雨密装置（门、窗、盖）取得了型式认可证书，就证明了其风雨密性能。

另外，有关风雨密的要求通常是在法定要求（公约或《法规》）中体现的（如：载重线公约），而不是船级社的规范。按照“法定要求优先于船级社规范”的原则，只要法规性的文件没有要求，而船级社的要求又高于这个要求，就不必理睬船级社的要求。可以举一个例子：ABS规范要求货舱舱口盖要采用船用钢，但载重线公约仅要求用“软钢”，也就是可以用Q235钢的。ABS的这个要求就可以不遵守，除非该船需要取得ABS的“舱口盖附加标志”，才需要按照他们的规范去做。

还可以针对这个要求提出质疑：怎么才算“与结构舱壁强度一致”？板厚或扶强材差不多吗？

目前已被采用的风雨密装置（如：不锈钢或复合材料风雨密门）的强度（板厚或强度等级）很可能是低于所在舱壁的。

但如果你的装置实际上是要满足“水密”要求的，其强度应相等或高于所在舱壁的强度。

steel_man

评估此处门开孔后的强度，对global及local的影响

feitian5229

abs的这个要求意思是，门的强度要按风雨密舱壁来计算吧，风雨密强度这个词听着就别扭，楼主是不是没理解到abs的意思

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包青天

外部风雨密强度？是水密门吧

mikeship

没只要保证门风雨密就行了，门槛以下才有强度要求。

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feitian5229

mikeship 发表于 2025-10-25 12:34
没只要保证门风雨密就行了，门槛以下才有强度要求。

那3mm的门板也可以？

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人在糨糊飘

ABS原文贴出来看看

mikeship

feitian5229 发表于 2025-10-30 15:34
那3mm的门板也可以？

说笑话了！

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Agoni994

说的太对了

lrff

人在糨糊飘 发表于 2025-10-30 16:10
ABS原文贴出来看看

Part       3    Hull Construction and Equipment
Chapter  2    Hull Structures and Arrangement
Section   11  Superstructures, Deckhouses and Helicopter Decks

5 Enclosed Superstructures and Deckhouses
5.1 Openings in Bulkheads
All openings in the exposed bulkheads of enclosed superstructures and deckhouses are to be provided with
efficient means of closing so that in any sea condition water will not penetrate the vessel. Opening and
closing appliances are to be framed and stiffened so that when closed the whole structure is equivalent in
strength to the unpierced bulkhead.
5.3 Doors for Access Openings (2022)
Doors for access openings into enclosed superstructures and deckhouses are to be made either of steel,
aluminum or fiber reinforced plastic (if in compliance with statutory regulations and operational
requirements) and are to be permanently attached to the bulkhead. Scantlings for door panels and stiffeners
or swages are to be obtained from 3-2-11/3.3 & 3.5 or 3-2-11/3.6 based on the design head of the bulkhead
where the door is located. Minimum thickness requirements in 3-2-11/3.3 or 3-2-11/3.6 for exposed
bulkheads are to be applied to panels of doors located on exposed bulkheads of superstructure and
deckhouses at and below Position 2 and to doors located on the exposed front bulkhead at all levels. The
doors are to be provided with gaskets and clamping devices, or other equivalent arrangements and the
doors are to be so arranged that they can be operated from both sides of the bulkhead. Doors located above
Position 2 (refer to 3-2-15/3.1) of superstructure and deckhouses are to have strength compatible to
adjacent bulkheads and may be of joiner-type construction, e.g. thin gauge steel sheeting surrounding a
mineral wool core, provided they are verified to be weathertight to the satisfaction of the attending
Surveyor.

子曰随缘

你前面说的，参照ABS规范要求，外部风雨密门强度至少需要与结构舱壁强度一致。
你后面说的，如何跟ABS澄清不需要满足这项要求。
所以，你到底是为啥不需要满足你已经贴出来的规范要求，而且还要ABS接受。。。