到底油船的painting store的门能否朝后开（facing cargo area）？

fzhrxy · 发表于 2007-9-11 09:05

请问，到底油船的painting store（inside forecastle）的门能否朝后开（facing cargo area）？
以前看到很多船朝后开的，但是昨天听人说，现在油船的门都不容许面向货油区开了，有这个要求吗？哪儿可以找到啊?

xiaoningfly · 发表于 2007-9-11 12:54

不能直接向着货舱区开,如果隔着居住区域的话,是可以的.

fzhrxy · 发表于 2007-9-11 16:47

哪儿的要求？请明确。谢谢

xiaoningfly · 发表于 2007-9-11 18:11

3.2.3 Entrances, air inlets and openings to accommodation, service and machinery spaces and control stations shall not face the cargo area. They shall be located on the end bulkhead not facing the cargo area and/or on the outboard side of the superstructure or deck-house at a distance of at least 4% of the length (L) of the ship but not less than 3 m from the end of the superstructure or deck-house facing the cargo area. This distance, however, need not exceed 5 m. No doors shall be permitted within the limits mentioned above, except that doors to those spaces not having access to accommodation and service spaces and control stations, such as cargo control stations and store-rooms, may be fitted. Where such doors are fitted, the boundaries of the space shall be insulated to "A-60" standard.

在化学品船的IBC规则中
3.2.3 起居处所、服务处所、机器处所和控制站的入口、空气进口和开口不应面向货物区域。应将它们设置在不面向货物区域的端壁处和(或)距上层建筑或甲板室面向货物区域的端壁至少为船长(L)的4％，但不少于3 m的上层建筑或甲板室的外侧。但该距离不必超过5 m。在上述范围内不得设有门，但在不通往起居处所、服务处所或控制站等处所(如货物控制站和储藏室)可以设门。如果设有这种门，该处所边界的绝热应达到“A-60”标准。

xiaoningfly · 发表于 2007-9-11 18:26

SOLAS 96-98 Amend / II-2 / Reg. 56里面的限制

8.1 Except as permitted in paragraph 8.2 below, access doors, air inlets and openings to accommodation spaces, service spaces, control stations and machinery spaces shall not face the cargo area. They shall be located on the transverse bulkhead not facing the cargo area or on the outboard side of the superstructure or deckhouse at a distance of at least 4% of the length of the ship but not less than 3m from the end of the superstructure or deckhouse facing the cargo area. This distance need not exceed 5 m.

8.2 The Administration may permit access doors in boundary bulkheads facing the cargo area or within the 5m limits specified in paragraph 8.1, to main cargo control stations and to such service spaces as provision rooms, store-rooms and lockers, provided they do not give access directly or indirectly to any other space containing or provided for accommodation, control stations or service spaces such as galleys, pantries or workshops, or similar spaces containing sources of vapour ignition. The boundary of such a space shall be insulated to "A-60" standard, with the exception of the boundary facing the cargo area. Bolted plates for the removal of machinery may be fitted within the limits specified in paragraph 8.1. Wheelhouse doors and wheelhouse windows may be located within the limits specified in paragraph 8.1 so long as they are designed to ensure that the wheelhouse can be made rapidly and efficiently gas and vapour tight.

large312 · 发表于 2007-9-11 19:16

问题的关键是
油漆间算什么处所
个人认为都是危险品,和货物一样,没必要分隔

renwoxing · 发表于 2007-9-12 13:49

油漆间算高失火危险性服务处所

金陵老船工 · 发表于 2007-9-12 15:03

一般在设计时,往往把油漆间设计在船首储藏室的后部左或右舷的舷旁,由于和居住舱室分开,所以门都是向货舱区开的,目前大部分的在造船也是这样设计的.

renwoxing · 发表于 2007-9-12 17:40

顶一个

large312 · 发表于 2007-9-17 22:51

今天接到设计院的修改
首楼油漆间原来没有向后的门,只在上面有个双面启闭的盖子
现在改成后面开个水密门,面向货油区上面盖子取消

fzhrxy · 发表于 2007-9-18 13:12

watertight? ----not necessary

large312 · 发表于 2007-9-18 14:01

就是风雨密
口语都这么说

fzhrxy · 发表于 2007-9-18 16:15

今天接到设计院的修改
首楼油漆间原来没有向后的门,只在上面有个双面启闭的盖子
现在改成后面开个水密门,面向货油区上面盖子取消
只在上面有个双面启闭的盖子------------？
这个盖子做什么的？是不是搬运painting的？

hojmann · 发表于 2007-9-18 16:20

没有必要做双面开启的,
但是
要注意通风!

renwoxing · 发表于 2007-9-28 20:50

呵呵，这个盖子的本意是没有门，只好从这个盖子爬上爬下。现在好了，允许开门了，再装盖子真是“脱裤子放屁-----多此一举”呀。所以呀，大家要明白布置得目的呀。看看金陵老船工的帖子吧。。。
别瞎揣摩了。。。。

到底油船的painting store的门能否朝后开（facing cargo area）？

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