STX develops LNG ro-ro

wuxing1128 · 发表于 2009-7-15 10:13

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Australia's Roadships, recently listed on the Nasdaq Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board, has set its eyes on US shortsea shipping with the unique high-speed monohull ro-ro design.

The transport outfit on June 26th asked STX Canada Marine to include LNG power in designs for its fast ro-ro concept.

Roadships says it and STX Europe's Vancouver-based design and engineering arm have amended their long-running commercialisation deal to reflect change.

"By running the ship on LNG, we reduce carcinogenic fuel use on shore, and we know that's going to make a big impact," Roadships chief executive Michael Nugent said.

Friday's design re-jig aims to take advantage of Ecorizon, STX Europe's sustainable shipping research-and-development initiative.

"The latest technologies will be applied in the design and equipment selection to ensure the ship achieves the least impact on the environment and will put the vessel at the forefront of a new generation of coastal marine transportation," STX Canada Marine president David McMillan said.

Nugent says his company is considering building six of the vessels. As Roadships aims to operate under the US Jones Act, he hopes at least four will be built at US yards. But two ships may be constructed at foreign yards to get the project off the ground.

After scoring financing likely to be a mix of debt and equity, Nugent expects to make a construction commitment within the next two quarters.

The fast ro-ro concept took its start in the early 1990s at Kvaerner Masa Yards in Finland, later to become part of STX Europe, for shortsea shipping in Europe. McMillan says that Roadships and STX Canada Marine have been working together on the monohull ro-ro design for about a decade.

With a piercing bow form to cut through high seas, Roadships' version of the design aims for speeds of about 56 kph and the ability for quick turnaround. Until Friday's agreement, the 2,430-lane-metre ships were slated to have high-output medium-speed diesel engines.
The design also involves allows for simultaneous discharge and loading operations from two decks.

daviskuai · 发表于 2009-7-15 10:48

very nice ship. the chinese ship designer have no these iimagination.

wuxing1128 · 发表于 2009-7-15 11:47

It`s the gap!!!!!

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-15 11:59

Poor English.
By the way, this is actually an LNG powered RoRo, not an LNG RoRo.
And still by the way, just have a look at the image, do you reeeeaaally believe there would be any civil ship designed like that? With a piercing bow form to cut through high seas? Hahaha

wuxing1128 · 发表于 2009-7-15 12:52

鉴于本人英语水平一般.
给您回帖我还是选择用汉语吧!
如果发现本人汉语也有问题的话,那就请您原谅,将就将就看了吧.....

首先呢我要先向您道歉因为本人的英语水平低给您的眼球带来了一定得冲击!!
但不知道有没有给您带来麻烦?
如果有的话,那我真要对您说声对不起了!

其次呢我想说这个消息来源于韩国的STX 本部的科研中心.
本人也和STX有些渊源.所以我可以保证这条消息的准确性.如果有需要可以给您发一些链接.
您可以亲自去看一下人家的想法.
当然如果您真的感觉忍不住的话,可以给STX发邮件,让他们赶紧不要做这方面的研究了.
弄不好还可以给您一个什么奖之类的.
也许您不是什么沽名钓誉之辈,根本看不上这奖那奖的.
算我多嘴了抱歉!!!

最后呢我想说明一下呢,
发这个帖子的目的呢就是想让论坛里的朋友们能看一下外国的设计想法
也许是STX 异想天开,不过总比咱们国内什么都想不出来好吧!
再说了谁知道以后到底能不能研究出来这样的船呢???
等到那时候....
咱们又拿什么和人家强饭碗呢?

您不觉得这值得咱们深思吗?

forever302212 · 发表于 2009-7-15 13:05

说得好！顶！！！

wuxing1128 · 发表于 2009-7-15 13:30

还有呢我想客观的说一下

其实呢咱们在看待外国先进东西的时候

不应该抱着批判或是找人家错误的想法去看,
而是要抱着学习的心态
这样才能进步!!!
绞尽脑汁去找别人的错误,去批判别人.这并不能说明自己的睿智.
其实对于别人来说,应该感激你才对.为什么呢/?你这么睿智应该可以想到!

再回到文章来看.
虽然您的英语比较好
但是您的阅读水平欠缺一些.

这篇文章提出的并不只是船舶的构造方面的事情.
他指出了未来造船业和环境保护之间的关系.
这是以后必须要注意的问题.
自我感觉这是比较人性化!!!

不像国内重视的只是订单的多少/和韩国的差距有多少!!!

要说的只有这么多了,有什么冒犯之处请见谅

billy · 发表于 2009-7-15 14:09

我觉得我的头像的那条船比这条好看。

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-15 14:10

Since you can understand English, Ok, I'd keep using it as well. And yes, the English is not so poor actually, for Korean.
But I did expect that the R&D Center could tell the difference between an LNG RoRo and an LNG Powered RoRo. Maybe that's too much for them:-)
Tell them to stop the research? Haha, but why? That's not my business, they can design whatever SF ship they like. I don't hold their stock anyway.

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-15 14:15

Sorry for failing to ignore the mistake. Will try harder next time.

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-15 14:16

Sorry for failing to ignore the mistake. Will try harder next time.

wuxing1128 · 发表于 2009-7-15 14:29

看着像直升机

玩狙的 · 发表于 2009-7-16 08:34

这船的外形跟法国设计的那个军用高速舰差不多，也具备较高的商用价值，不过那个是双体，利用地效的

czbytuedu · 发表于 2009-7-16 14:59

原帖由 DragonTalker 于 2009-7-15 11:59 发表
Poor English.
By the way, this is actually an LNG powered RoRo, not an LNG RoRo.
And still by the way, just have a look at the image, do you reeeeaaally believe there would be any civil ship designe ...

well i cant see the odds as long as we understand that this passage is mainly about a new conception -LNG RO RO
From your point of view , I guess LNG RO RO may means a vessel that intergrated LNG vessel and RO RO together making a new kind of ship
Clearly ,we can understand that ,in this passage ,LNG RO RO is a kind of ship that can use LNG as fuel ```
Is that right?
dont be picky ```

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-16 16:33

Sure a reader will finally find out this is actually an LNG powered vessel, but why wasting readers the time wondering, 'how the hell was they able to RoRo LNG?'
It is a mistake, ok not a huge one, not a deadly one, but a mistake is a mistake, even if it is made by STX in Europe. Pointing out a mistake means refusing to learn? Logic, please.
And sorry, I personally am pessimistic about future of this ship in the coming two decades.

笑云生 · 发表于 2009-7-16 17:08

the 15th floor (Dragon Talker ),you say you are pessimistic about the future in the coming two decades !
why ?two dacades mean twenty years ,it is such a long time ,that ,very much things will happen .
among of them ,the world economy will return to normal and even going better .so will the shipbuilding industry.
pessimistic does not mean you will not see the sun later because of the rain now !

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-16 17:58

I'm pessimistic about this type of vessel, not the world economy, nor the shipbuilding industry.

candit · 发表于 2009-7-20 05:59

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mg_chuanren · 发表于 2009-7-20 09:13

Always try to learn more from others, then you will be more strength to face the praxis.

DragonTalker · 发表于 2009-7-20 10:08

1. Pity my English is not so good.
2. Pity you don't see the difference.
3. Whereas your point 1, I assume this point has nothing to do with me.
4. Maybe you are more interested in the previous 3 points, but since we are already here, here's piece of my mind:
First of all please allow me to make it clear that I didn't say there's no future for this ship. 'I personally am pessimistic about future of this ship in the coming two decades' is exactly what I said.
Yes the research is hot, and involved many leading companies, but this alone is not sufficient to ensure instant success. There are many more meaningful inventions buried in the human industry history. And this is related with your next question:
What fueled the research?
Well, soaring oil price, for one, which is no longer soaring; the fear that the developed countries may force more strict environment regulations, which turned to be not the case in the G8; what about yet another oil crisis? Ha what do you think they send those GIs all the way there to Iraq for?
With no such fears burning at the hips, there would not be enough power to fulfil the design.
As to the future beyond 20 years, I don't know and I doubt if anybody knows.

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