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[轮机] 中航鼎衡:直接驱动永磁轴发电机驱动,什么概念?优势何在?

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发表于 2017-2-8 16:06 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式 来自: 中国上海

船名:Ternsund

船型:化学品/

([size=0.9em]船型 [size=0.9em]船厂 [size=0.9em]买卖)

船东:Terntank

船厂:中航鼎衡

上榜理由:使用直接驱动永磁轴

([size=0.9em]产品库 [size=0.9em]求购 [size=0.9em]供应)的LNG燃料动力油船


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发表于 2017-2-8 16:45 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
高效, 直接驱动无需减速齿轮箱
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发表于 2017-2-9 13:03 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
  可以访问:
www.theswitch.com
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发表于 2017-2-9 13:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
frankcheng 发表于 2017-2-8 16:45
高效, 直接驱动无需减速齿轮箱

Permanent magnet shaft generatorsFor shaft generators, our mechanical solution based on permanent magnet generators (PMG) and frequency converters allows the auxiliary generators to be off most of the time and enables the ship to operate at variable speed while producing electricity.
Higher efficiency
A PM machine gives high-efficiency performance over the entire operating range, significantly cutting back on fuel consumption. A PM machine is typically 2–4% more efficient at full load and 10% more efficient at part loads compared with induction machines. These efficiencies result from a lack of current losses in the rotor, the absence of an exciter and reduced winding losses.
High power density
The synchronous PM machine contains Neodymium-Iron-Boron (NdFeB) magnets, materials with a very high flux density, which makes them ideal for variable speed generators throughout the entire speed range. The magnetic field is created with almost zero losses.
Design flexibility
Thanks to the improved high density, a PM machine can be more compact, lighter in weight and smaller in size. This leads to greater flexibility with the limited space available in ship configurations.
Operational reliability
PM machines have proven their high reliability and durability under extremely harsh operating conditions in many industrial applications. They deliver excellent performance with corrosion resistance and temperature tolerance. With advanced thermal management, operational temperatures can be kept low, which in turn, assures an extended lifetime of the machine.
Widest range available
The Switch product portfolio of brushless PM synchronous machines is the widest in the market. We offer drive trains from 1 MW to 10 MW at low, medium and high speed. The machines can be used either as a generator or as a motor.
Our PM machines comply with the standards of leading classification societies in the world. They have been tested, approved and certified to ensure highest possible reliability of the vessels and to comply with the strict international safety and environmental standards.
Frequency converter superioritiesOptimized for best efficiency
The Switch frequency converter is based on insulated-gate bipolar transistors (IGBT) with advanced vector co***ol technology. It is optimized to work with PM machines for the best overall system efficiency. Our converters offer a modular, lightweight design, which enables efficient use of space within the vessel.
Active front-end speed co***ol
With active front-end (AFE) frequency drive technology, The Switch converter enables Power Take In (PTI) and Power Take Out (PTO) modes, while allowing a shaft generator to operate at variable speed. This technology enables the use of a PM machine to be operated as a motor or a generator according to the application requirement.
Liquid cooling and thermal management
The Switch frequency converter is designed with liquid cooling and exceptional thermal management. This results in a more compact size of the converter, which makes it easy to locate within limited vessel space.
Reliability in harshest conditions
The frequency converter features a rugged IP54-class panel. It is designed to be used in harsh environments, such as those on open sea. It is also easily accessible for installation and maintenance.
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发表于 2017-2-9 13:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
Permanent magnet shaft generatorsFor shaft generators, our mechanical solution based on permanent magnet generators (PMG) and frequency converters allows the auxiliary generators to be off most of the time and enables the ship to operate at variable speed while producing electricity.
Higher efficiency
A PM machine gives high-efficiency performance over the entire operating range, significantly cutting back on fuel consumption. A PM machine is typically 2–4% more efficient at full load and 10% more efficient at part loads compared with induction machines. These efficiencies result from a lack of current losses in the rotor, the absence of an exciter and reduced winding losses.
High power density
The synchronous PM machine contains Neodymium-Iron-Boron (NdFeB) magnets, materials with a very high flux density, which makes them ideal for variable speed generators throughout the entire speed range. The magnetic field is created with almost zero losses.
Design flexibility
Thanks to the improved high density, a PM machine can be more compact, lighter in weight and smaller in size. This leads to greater flexibility with the limited space available in ship configurations.
Operational reliability
PM machines have proven their high reliability and durability under extremely harsh operating conditions in many industrial applications. They deliver excellent performance with corrosion resistance and temperature tolerance. With advanced thermal management, operational temperatures can be kept low, which in turn, assures an extended lifetime of the machine.
Widest range available
The Switch product portfolio of brushless PM synchronous machines is the widest in the market. We offer drive trains from 1 MW to 10 MW at low, medium and high speed. The machines can be used either as a generator or as a motor.
Our PM machines comply with the standards of leading classification societies in the world. They have been tested, approved and certified to ensure highest possible reliability of the vessels and to comply with the strict international safety and environmental standards.
Frequency converter superioritiesOptimized for best efficiency
The Switch frequency converter is based on insulated-gate bipolar transistors (IGBT) with advanced vector co***ol technology. It is optimized to work with PM machines for the best overall system efficiency. Our converters offer a modular, lightweight design, which enables efficient use of space within the vessel.

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发表于 2017-2-9 13:10 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
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发表于 2017-2-9 15:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
AFE VFD 牛叉
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发表于 2017-2-10 08:39 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
kun2014 发表于 2017-2-9 15:07
AFE VFD 牛叉

一见AFE就觉得其实是普遍使用。
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发表于 2017-2-10 11:44 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海

active front-end (AFE) frequency drive technology?
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发表于 2017-2-14 11:03 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏扬州
楼主是不清楚用了这个开始也是吃了不少苦,瓦锡兰!!!!!
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发表于 2017-2-14 18:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国吉林四平
哪些都是厂家的宣传,最大的甜头就是省钱!

轴带发电机和普通船用发电机比较:

主机用的是燃油或者重燃油;而一般发电机用的是柴油或者重柴油。总之可以用便宜的油。

第二点是主机轴带发电机省了些齿轮传动,学机械的都知道,每一级齿轮都有能量损失的。就是高效。

其他基本上都是缺点啦:比如说,装卸货时主机停机啦,电力供应就成了问题。如果专门配一个发电机的话,利用率低。甚至等船报废了那台发电机还是很新;配电装置会变得复杂,成本高维修困难......
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发表于 2017-2-14 18:14 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国吉林四平
这种东东已经出现有一段时间啦。

你用常理想想,如果光有优点没有缺点的话,短期内岂不是大部分新船都会造成这样的啦!就像当年爱迪生发明了点灯,美国的标准时候煤油的销量就来了个大跳水。

应该在某个范围内相对比较适合;而在另一些领域根本就不适合。

举个极端的例子,如果装卸货时船本身需要大功率电力的船就不能用。
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发表于 2017-2-14 18:16 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国吉林四平
这种东东已经出现有一段时间啦。

你用常理想想,如果光有优点没有缺点的话,短期内岂不是大部分新船都会造成这样的啦!就像当年爱迪生发明了点灯,美国的标准石油公司煤油的销量就来了个大跳水。

应该在某个范围内相对比较适合;而在另一些领域根本就不适合。

举个极端的例子,如果装卸货时船本身需要大功率电力的船就不能用。
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发表于 2017-2-15 11:04 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
黑哥250 发表于 2017-2-14 18:16
这种东东已经出现有一段时间啦。

你用常理想想,如果光有优点没有缺点的话,短期内岂不是大部分新船都 ...

这种技术, 对于工况多变的工程船是很适用的.
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发表于 2017-2-15 11:24 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
frankcheng 发表于 2017-2-15 11:04
这种技术, 对于工况多变的工程船是很适用的.

传一个比较典型的系统配置

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发表于 2017-2-16 11:23 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
frankcheng 发表于 2017-2-15 11:24
传一个比较典型的系统配置

To: 黑哥250

做过海工及工程船的, 可能会从附图里发现一些东西.
看你举了很多车子的例子, 接你的话举一个: 代步你开什么没关系, 如果需要经常在戈壁里跑,你需不需要差速锁和非承载车身?
所以, 这就是一个技术以及技术使用领域的问题, 而不是思维问题.
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发表于 2017-2-17 12:26 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国吉林四平
frankcheng 发表于 2017-2-16 11:23
To: 黑哥250

做过海工及工程船的, 可能会从附图里发现一些东西.

我是在说那条化学品船的船东选了这套系统,我对他的思维方式不理解。

你是不是误解啦?以为我在说你。

再举个车的例子:如果你看到两辆大切诺基从你身边开过,一辆灰头灰脸的;而另一辆上了蜡,油光铮亮的。你会怎样想?
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发表于 2017-2-17 13:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
黑哥250 发表于 2017-2-17 12:26
我是在说那条化学品船的船东选了这套系统,我对他的思维方式不理解。

你是不是误解啦?以为我在说你。 ...

这个帖子的主题是: AFE 直接驱动轴发.
中航鼎衡的这条船,是双燃料低速主机, 不存在fix RPM工况, 所以如果要安装轴带发电机, AFE双向变频+轴发是最佳方案. 这个轴发履行的是PTO+PTI功能. 规范要求: 以LNG为燃料的船舶, 需要有冗余推进系统. 具体到本船, 双燃料主机本身就是一个冗余推进, 所以技术上并不强制要求PTO+PTI. 但是, 如果是单一LNG燃料推进系统, 要么配双LNG罐( 或者单罐+2个TCS), 要么加柴油发电机驱动的PTI. 这条船的船东是北欧的, 未来肯定要建造单一LNG为燃料的船舶. 即使不考虑低速机驱动轴发带来的经济性, 船东在这条双燃料船舶上加PTI作为技术储备及技术验证, 也非常符合逻辑.


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发表于 2017-2-17 18:56 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国吉林四平
frankcheng 发表于 2017-2-17 13:18
这个帖子的主题是: AFE 直接驱动轴发.
中航鼎衡的这条船,是双燃料低速主机, 不存在fix RPM工况, 所以如 ...

既然你用“未来”,“即使不考虑经济型”和“技术储备及技术验证”来证明你的 “符合逻辑”,我也就没啥好说的了。
也许这条船的船东非常前卫,那就是说按普通船东的思维方式对他的行为难以理解也是正常的啦。
用同样的理由你能得出相反的结论,我确实无语啦!
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发表于 2017-2-18 08:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国山东济宁
我只是路过打酱油的
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