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[船体] 谁知道航母所用的各部位船板厚度

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发表于 2011-1-31 12:39 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式 来自: 中国浙江台州
巡洋舰跟同吨位的民船所用的船板标准一样么 ?
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发表于 2011-1-31 19:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东东莞
同吨位的也没见几个钢板一样厚的,不同设计的人肯定用的不一样了,你分析一下你就可以造了,呵呵,满足工况强度就可以了,呵呵。
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发表于 2011-2-9 11:14 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国山东
哈哈。。这都有问的?不知道就别造啊,哈哈哈哈。。
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发表于 2011-2-9 11:30 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
这包袱抖的。皮上写的航母,剥开了一看叫巡洋舰。

不管军船民船,都是在海里跑的,所以基本的原理都一样。只不过军船的重要性远大于民船,所以设计建造的标准更高。速度和有效载荷对于各种各样的军船都是非常重要的指标,因此军船的空船重量一定要尽可能的小,反映在结构上,就是钢板要尽可能薄。

航母的钢材材质要求比一般军船高很多,价格也贵的多。至于航母各部位的船板厚度,不知道。奉劝施主也别打听了,这种东西还是不知道的好,否则,阿弥陀佛,莫非你想被请去喝茶?
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发表于 2011-2-9 11:35 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南京
你问这个问题,还不如问军委主席的核手提箱密码呢想喝龙井还是铁观音啊?
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发表于 2011-2-9 15:52 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东深圳
这包袱抖的。皮上写的航母,剥开了一看叫巡洋舰。

不管军船民船,都是在海里跑的,所以基本的原理都一样 ...
blackmclaren 发表于 2011-2-9 11:30



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发表于 2011-2-9 16:03 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
本帖最后由 液氮渔场 于 2011-2-19 21:03 编辑
莫这么严重吧,
我们关心国防而已,爱国者行为。
jasonz 发表于 2011-2-9 15:52



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爱国也成为一种时髦。因为爱国是唯一的信仰和道德,以爱国的名义什么都可以干。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-10 14:03 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江台州
回复 8# blackmclaren


    可以所美国的军船,这有什么好喝茶的,那帮人想知道也不知道
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发表于 2011-2-10 17:29 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国山东烟台
这个知道了也不会说的,会被人请走喝茶的
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:02 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
回复  blackmclaren


    可以所美国的军船,这有什么好喝茶的,那帮人想知道也不知道
goldenwa 发表于 2011-2-10 14:03



    您的美国军船钢板厚度

CVN 21 - 21st Century Carrier

The CVN 21 began as the CVX, a new ship class that is the second and long-term part of the Navy's two-track strategy for aircraft carrier recapitalization. The Navy's vision for CVX is to develop a new class of aircraft carriers to significantly reduce total ownership cost and incorporate an architecture for change and flexibility, while maintaining the core capabilities of Naval aviation (high-volume firepower, survivability, sustainability and mobility) for the 21st Century and beyond. Achieving this vision will require significant design changes to incorporate advances in technology and to focus the design on enhanced affordability since little carrier research and development has been undertaken since the 1960's.

The Department of Defense and the Navy stated on 19 December 2002 that they had decided to rename the CVNX program CVN-21 and that the first ship would have 80 percent of the kinds of new capability that was anticipated by the time the Navy would have reached the CVNX-2. This includes crew reductions, new flight decks, and a new nuclear reactor power plant, which will provide upwards of three times the electrical output of the current power plant. This would open up the opportunity to begin experimenting with the kinds of weapons systems that heretofore were not possible with the kind of electrical power available.

The design of CVN-21 is different than CVNX-1 in that there were changes in the deck spacing and arrangement which was to be a part of CVNX-2. Interior spaces are to be redesigned. Changes as a result of the power plant and some other improvements in the internal spacing with in the ship will result in a reduction in manpower levels. Crew reductions are expected to be roughly eight hundred fewer people -- other than the air wing. Based on these design changes the Navy and the DoD consider CVN-21 to be transformational.

According to studies conducted by the Newport News Shipbuilding Carrier Innovation Center, one possibility evaluated would have been to remove elevator number one (on the starboard side, near the bow catapults) and simply make it part of the flight deck. Elevators two and three would be widened and strengthened to handle up to three aircraft. This would vastly improve aircraft operating efficiency. According to Rear Admiral Alfred G. Harms, Commander, Carrier Group Three, the number one elevator is…"rarely used. Particularly at night because of the safety considerations." This improved flight deck layout would increase air operations safety as well as the ship’s sortie rate.

There's also been a recognition that electromagnetic rail guns were not ready for deployment with a ship in FY '07. They were still in the state of being developed so that they are not as test articles but as deployable systems. And so the notion that the Navy would back-fit into this first hole or into its next iteration those capabilities as they come on line is very much a part of current thinking, and it has to do with the interior space that is freed up and volume in a ship that otherwise wouldn't have been available.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the Navy focused on the development of high-strength low-alloy steel (HSLA-65, -80, and -100) for ship construction in the thickness range of 5/16-inch. to 1-5/8 inch. HSLA-65 and HSLA-100 steels are being considered for immediate application as the primary structure in the DD (X), CVN 77, and CVNX 1 for weight reduction and fabrication cost savings. More recently, Division metallurgists have collaborated with researchers from Japan in a cooperative program to develop structurally acceptable methods to use “under-matched” strength weldments for use with high-strength steel alloys (yield strength greater than 150 ksi). This technology has the potential to significantly reduce the costs of high-strength steel in ship construction.

The Navy believe that the new carriers can shed a few pounds if this steel is used in the carrier hulls. Preliminary calculations indicated that if it was used in hull plate, it could provide equal or greater service life than the traditional high-strength steel, but be thinner, and therefore weigh less. The same would be true for the hull's interior supporting structures. HSLA-65 is stronger and tougher than conventional steel, and has proven itself in commercial bridges, pipelines and other ship above-deck structures. Rigorous certification testing of this new steel is underway.

By early 2003 the CVNX (aircraft carrier, nuclear, experimental) program had been restructured to place as much technology as possible on the lead ship, now called the CVN-21. New propulsion plant, electric catapult, reduced manning, improved survivability and more efficient flight operations are the keys to this new carrier, planned to be available in the 2011 period. CVN 77, which will replace USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) in 2008, began construction in 2001. CVNX 1, which will replace USS Enterprise (CVN 65) in 2013, was initially scheduled to begin construction in 2006. In fiscal year 1998, CVN 77 initiated the design process necessary to accomplish the technological changes planned for CVNX. The ultimate result of these design efforts will be a carrier class that has not only substantially lower life cycle costs, but also a significantly improved warfighting capability to successfully accomplish a wide range of future missions in what is rapidly becoming an increasingly uncertain world.

On 10 July 2003 it was announced that the U.S. Navy had awarded Northrop Grumman Corporation a contract to support the future aircraft carrier program, CVN 21. Northrop Grumman's Newport News sector is the prime contractor for the award.

The $107.6 million contract allows the company to continue pre-system development and design efforts for CVN 21. Work performed under the contract includes research and design development efforts as well as pre-system development and design in support of ship construction with delivery planned for 2014. This contract is a modification to a previous contract, bringing the total value of the contract to $303.5 million.

According to the DOT&E, the technical risk for this program is moderate. The Navy is conducting a comprehensive early operational assessment in FY04 intended to identify additional risk factors in ten major areas of the ship. By using the proven Nimitz hull form the Navy reduced technical risk in Phase I of the ships development. The Navy plans to use Multi-Function Radar and Volume Search Radar for CVN-21 and these are being developed as part of the new DD(X) destroyer program. The greatest risk will probably be in the IWS, most of which is in Phase II of the CVN 21 program. Safe and adequate operational testing of the IWS providing self-defense against anti-ship cruise missiles will require testing with a selfdefense test ship.

The program has a competitive test and evaluation program set up for EMALS. A successful EMALS program should significantly reduce the complexity, space, and manpower consumed by legacy steam and hydraulic systems. It could also help increase the life expectancy of carrier aircraft due to a much smoother launch sequence.

The LFT&E program, as planned by the Navy and DOT&E, will be a comprehensive evaluation based on CVN survivability studies, battle damage lessons learned, flight deck accident lessons learned, relevant weapons effects tests, probability of kill versus probability of hit studies, damage scenario-based engineering analyses of specific hits, vulnerability assessment reports, a total ship survivability trial, a ship shock trial, and extensive surrogate testing. The CVN 21 program is designing the aircraft carrier for the 21st Century, as the replacement for the NIMITZ Class nuclear aircraft carriers. CVN 21 will be the centerpiece of tomorrow’s Carrier Strike Groups and a contribution to every capability pillar envisioned in Sea Power 21. CVN 21 will be a primary force in Sea Strike with enhancements such as a future air wing that will include the Joint Strike Fighter and Joint Unmanned Combat Air Systems.

CVN 21’s transformational command centers will combine the power of FORCEnet and flexible open system architecture to support multiple simultaneous missions, including integrated strike planning, joint/coalition operations and Special Warfare missions. The CVN 21 based strike group will play a major role in Sea Shield protecting United States interests, while deterring enemies and reassuring allies. CVN 21 will provide the United States the capability to quickly project combat power anywhere in the world, independent of land based support.

Overall, CVN 21 will increase sortie generation rate by 20 percent, increase survivability to better handle future threats and have depot maintenance requirements that could support an increase of up to 25 percent in operational availability. The new design nuclear propulsion plant and improved electric plant together provide three times the electrical generation capacity of a NIMITZ Class carrier. This capacity allows the introduction of new systems such as Electromagnetic Aircraft Launching System, Advanced Arresting Gear, and a new integrated warfare system that will leverage advances in open systems architecture to be affordably upgraded. Other features include an enhanced flight deck, improved weapons handling and aircraft servicing efficiency, and a flexible island arrangement allowing for future technology insertion.

On 21 May 2004, it was announced that the Navy and Northrop Grumman Newport News (NGNN) had successfully negotiated the construction preparation (CP) contract for CVN 21 with advance procurement and advance construction of components and associated design efforts in support of the anticipated FY07 ship procurement for CVN 21 being provided for under the contract. The CVN 21 CP contract was a three-year, cost type contract valued at $1.4 billion, which included a fee earnable to $161.9 million, for advanced procurement of material, design and engineering, and advance construction of CVN 21. This contract included cost, schedule and performance incentives designed to ensure CVN 21 requirements were met at an affordable price. The contract structure had a portfolio of incentives aimed at obtaining the most innovative ship design that would meet the program’s performance goals, while emphasizing timely delivery and control of all costs: material, labor, facilities, overhead and construction.

In August 2004 DoD began describing the CVN 21 program as a 3-ship program encompassing CVN 21 and two similar follow-on ships (CVN 79 and CVN 80) to be procured in later years.
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
90年代中期啊美利坚航他妈舰体上用的高强低合金钢的厚度
5/16或5/8英寸

1英寸=25.4毫米

故啊美利坚航他妈舰体上用的高强度低合金钢的厚度为
15.875mm或者7.9375mm,由于外国人一般说的都是概述(这点在美国人说的英式单位上尤甚)

故而实际厚度为16mm或8mm。
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:10 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
本帖最后由 液氮渔场 于 2011-2-15 08:15 编辑

第二次世界大战后,世界各军事强国为了满足舰船装备的发展需求,研制开发了系列高强度舰船用钢。


如美国,战后发展了355MPa(36kgf/mm2)级HTS钢、550MPa(56kgf/mm2)级HY80钢、690MPa(70kgf/mm2)级HY100钢、890MPa(91kgf/mm2)级HY130钢,并用于实船建造;


俄罗斯开发了屈服强度从390-1175MPa(40-120kgf/mm2)级的АБ系列舰船钢;

法国最新建造的“凯旋”级核潜艇耐压壳体用钢屈服强度已达到980MPa。

HY-80、HY-100、HY-130都是美国在50年代开始应用于舰艇制造的高强度低合金钢,现在已经普遍被HSLA-80和HSLA-100系列高强度钢所替代。

此类高强度钢由于含有铜元素,因此有别于于传统的船体用钢。

传统的高强度船体用钢均是在低碳低合金钢的基础上,通过采用调质热处理工艺获得低碳回火马氏体组织来达到高强度高韧性的配合。

为了确保较厚规格钢板具有足够的淬透性,钢中通常需要添加较高含量的Ni, Cr, M.等合金元素。

钢的强度级别要求越高,船体钢的碳当大幅增加,这使得钢的焊接变得十分困难。

如何兼顾高强度舰船用钢的强度和焊接性,己成为船体结构钢设计的一个关键因素。

由于在钢里加入了一定比例的铜,其优点在于减慢了钢材在大气中的腐蚀速度。

铜还可以改善钢材在海水中的耐蚀性,另外,含铜的钢材其耐磨性也有较大幅度的提高。

由于韧性加强了,对于舰体的直接好处就是提高了防弹效果。

这种钢在战后美国第一代产品就是屈服强度为36kgf/mm的2级S钢, 56kgf/mm的Z级HY80钢, 70kgf/mm的Z级HY100钢以及91kgf/mm的级HY130钢。

俄罗斯也开发了屈服强度从40kgf/mmZ-120kgf/mmZ级的A6系列舰船钢:

我国也相继研制成功了40, 45, 60, 80kgf/mm2级的高强度舰船用钢系列.

但是铜在钢中高到一定量时,将引起热脆性。将钢加热到1 100~1200 ℃(一般的热加工温度),铁优先氧化形成氧化皮,在氧化层和钢之间的界面上留下一层极薄的不易察觉的液态铜(铜的熔点仅为1083 ℃)。热轧或连铸时,钢中残余的铜便大量渗入晶界,造成晶间开裂。为避免热脆性,通常将钢中的铜作为有害元素而限制在0.35 %以下。另外,含铜钢的氧化皮去除困难,使制品的表面质量低劣。某些在特殊环境中服役的钢,若残余铜含量高,还可能出现辐照脆性、去应力脆性和回火脆性等问题,核容器用钢必须控制残余铜含量≤0.08 %。由于铜的有害作用,人们都怕铜钢。冶炼过铜钢的炉子通常要经过多次洗炉,同时为控制钢中残余铜含量而进行的处理,都无疑增加了生产成本。再一个,HY-80系列钢焊接前要进行长时间预热,这也使造船成本增加。

近年来,国外对铜合金化进行了深入研究,并开发出一些含铜的新钢种。

这类新钢种以美国的可焊接低合金高强度HSLA-80及HSLA-100钢为代表。

HSLA-80钢是以ASTM 710钢为基础开发的一种低碳、铜析出强化钢,其强韧性可达HY-80钢要求。

采用HY-80型焊接材料焊接时,HSLA-80钢的热裂抗力和冷裂抗力都优于HY-80钢。

由于焊接预热过程的减少或取消,造船成本比采用HY-80钢降低50 %~90%。优良的焊接性能是由于焊接过程中的热量使铜溶解,晶料粗化,热影响区软化。

HSLA-80钢于1984年开始用于舰船建造。

在HSLA-80钢基础上发展的HSLA-100钢强度、韧性可以达到或超过HY-100钢,取消焊前预热仍可保持好的可焊性。

HSLA-100钢也是低碳、铜析出强化钢,它采用锰、镍、钼来增加淬透性,镍改善韧性,同时进一步加强ε-Cu的析出强化效果,铜含量高于HSLA-80钢。

作为HY-100钢的替代品,HSLA-100钢自1989年起开始使用。

像美国的“提康德罗加”级巡洋舰、“阿里.伯克”级新型导弹驱逐舰和“尼米兹”级核动力航母的某些结构及“黄峰”级两栖攻击登陆舰的主要结构,使用的都是HSLA-80钢。

气垫船的船体材料也是这种钢。

而美国先进的攻击型核潜艇(非耐压壳体)和新建的航母壳体则用HSLA-100,如1993年下水的CVN-74“斯坦尼斯”号航母上就大量使用了厚度从15.9到25.4mm的HSLA-100钢。

中国的潜艇用钢有590Mpa的921钢与785 Mpa 的980超级钢,前者是HY80级别的,后者是HY100级别的。

921是039用钢,而90年代研制的航M,\与潜艇耐压壳体980钢将使用在09III上。HY80钢的潜深能达到400米,HY100钢能达到600米。

980钢配套的焊接材料,通过合理的合金设计,超纯冶炼和超低氢工艺措施,很好地解决了与母材等强匹配。

在非常严格,苛刻和不同季节的条件下,实现了对980钢在产品制造和施工工艺上的适应性考核,结果表明980钢具有良好的造船工艺适应性。

980钢严格地按照科研程序走完了研制全过程,填补了我国785Mpa级耐压壳体用钢的空白,使该材料达到了国际先进水平。
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:14 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国湖北宜昌
楼上的  狠人
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:16 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
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xq95599 发表于 2011-2-15 08:14



    我现在干是闲职,平时很闲的,所谓拿着XX的MONEY ,上XX的网
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发表于 2011-2-15 08:22 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
继续
英国的航他妈 厚度

HMS Eagle (R05)
HMS Eagle was an aircraft carrier of the Royal Navy, in service 1951-1972. With her sister ship Ark Royal(姐妹船是皇家方舟号), she is one of the two largest British aircraft carriers yet built.(英国建造过的最大的两艘航他妈之一)

She was initially laid down in 1942 at Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast as one of four ships of the Audacious-class aircraft carrier. These were laid down during World War II as part of the British naval buildup during that conflict. However, two were cancelled at the end of hostilities, and the remaining two were suspended. Originally designated Audacious, she was finally launched as Eagle (the fifteenth Royal Navy ship to receive this name) in March 1946, after the Audacious class carrier Eagle was cancelled.

A number of changes were incorporated into the design, although Eagle was launched too early to see an angled flight deck installed, and the ship was commissioned in October 1951. A year later she took part in the first large NATO naval exercise, Exercise Mainbrace.

Rebuild

The Admiralty had originally planned to give the Eagle a complete rebuild on the lines of HMS Victorious, but due to high costs this was abandoned. Eagle was instead given a more austere, but still extensive modernization. The changes included major improvements to the accommodation, including the installation of air conditioning. The island was completely rebuilt and the new 3D Type 984 radar was to be installed. The flight deck was modified and included a new 2½ inch armoured deck with a full 8.5 degree angle(飞行甲板装甲厚度2.5英寸=55mm), two new steam catapults (BS5s, 151 ft stroke on the port side forward and 199 ft stroke in the waist) were fitted as well as new arrester gear (DAX I) and mirror sights. As well, an overhaul of the DC electrical systems, AC generators was fitted to give additional power. It was decided that Eagle would have her anti-aircraft guns removed and replaced by the Sea Cat missile system, though her aft four 4.5 inch gun turrets were retained. All of Eagle’s original machinery and equipment was fully overhauled. This refit was budgeted to cost around £11 million and although expensive was still three times cheaper than building a new ship, it was expected that this refit would allow the Eagle to operate until the early 1980s.[citation needed] The final cost of the five year rebuild was closer to £30 million.
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发表于 2011-2-15 09:16 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江台州
很多研究战史的人都惊诧于日军侵华时对中国的了解之详尽
以今日很多人的作为,将来我们的子孙大有机会继续惊诧下去
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发表于 2011-2-15 11:39 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国辽宁大连
本帖最后由 sanshandaobojue 于 2011-2-15 11:44 编辑

军舰上钢板按照军船规范设计计算,还要考虑水下爆炸冲击,水上导弹炮弹什么的。军船有特殊结构可以阻止爆炸冲击波破坏范围。钢板多厚的都有最薄的有2,3mm的,就为减轻重量。拿手掰都能掰动,没有什么太神秘的,就是搞民船的接触不到罢了。听说过大连早年搞爆炸焊接么。军舰舰体,潜艇壳体厚度都是绝对的机密,曾经丢了一小块钢板下脚料,某个小城全城戒严查找。对于不懂的人来说就是一块钢板,内行可以得到更多,潜艇直径,最大下潜深度,吨位,甚至可能的配置都能从一大堆公式推导出来。
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发表于 2011-2-15 11:43 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国辽宁大连
不该说的别说,不该问的别问。
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发表于 2011-2-17 10:04 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏泰州
都是狠人啊
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发表于 2011-2-17 10:11 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南通
很多研究战史的人都惊诧于日军侵华时对中国的了解之详尽
以今日很多人的作为,将来我们的子孙大有机会继续 ...
大将 发表于 2011-2-15 09:16



    "AI GUO ZHE"行为啊

非常有趣的理由,哈哈
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