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匿名  发表于 2021-8-21 13:08 |阅读模式 来自: 美国
solas 公约 II-2章 B部分 第2.1条 燃油的使用限制


2.1.3.1 除布置在双层底的燃油舱柜内,其他燃油舱柜应位于A类机器处所之外"
2.1.4 对于货船,可准许使用闪点低于60摄氏度的燃油,例如原油,但此种燃油不得储存在任何机器处所内,且整套装置经主管机关认可。


A类机器处所真包含于机器处所,根据2.1.4,闪电低于60摄氏度的燃油不得储存在机器处所内,那就是2.1.3.1这条规定是无效的。


舱柜不在机器出所内,到底什么意思?舱柜显然是一个封闭空间,我们可以明确知道他的界限。但是机器处所呢,能够明确划分机器处所的界限在哪里?
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发表于 2021-8-21 17:27 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江嘉兴
通篇阅读,就不会觉得有奇异和相互矛盾的地方:
Regulation 4 - Probability of ignition
Parent topic: Part B - Prevention of fire and explosion footnote
1 Purpose
The purpose of this regulation is to prevent the ignition of combustible materials or flammable liquids. For this purpose, the following functional requirements shall be met:

.1 means shall be provided to control leaks of flammable liquids;

.2 means shall be provided to limit the accumulation of flammable vapours

.3 the ignitability of combustible materials shall be restricted;

.4 ignition sources shall be restricted;

.5 ignition sources shall be separated from combustible materials and flammable liquids; and

.6 the atmosphere in cargo tanks shall be maintained out of the explosive range.

2 Arrangements for oil fuel, lubrication oil and other flammable oils
2.1 Limitations in the use of oils as fuel
The following limitations shall apply to the use of oil as fuel:

.1 except as otherwise permitted by this paragraph, no oil fuel with a flashpoint of less than 60°C shall be used;footnote

.2 in emergency generators oil fuel with a flashpoint of not less than 43°C may be used;

.3 the use of oil fuel having a flashpoint of less than 60°C but not less than 43°C may be permitted (e.g., for feeding the emergency fire pump's engines and the auxiliary machines which are not located in the machinery spaces of category A) subject to the following:

.3.1 fuel oil tanks except those arranged in double bottom compartments shall be located outside of machinery spaces of category A;

.3.2 provisions for the measurement of oil temperature are provided on the suction pipe of the oil fuel pump;

.3.3 stop valves and/or cocks are provided on the inlet side and outlet side of the oil fuel strainers; and

.3.4 pipe joints of welded construction or of circular cone type or spherical type union joint are applied as much as possible;

.4 in cargo ships, to which part G of chapter II-1 is not applicable, the use of oil fuel having a lower flashpoint than otherwise specified in paragraph 2.1.1, for example crude oil, may be permitted provided that such fuel is not stored in any machinery space and subject to the approval by the Administration of the complete installation; and

.5 in ships, to which part G of chapter II-1 is applicable, the use of oil fuel having a lower flashpoint than otherwise specified in paragraph 2.1.1 is permitted.

2.2 Arrangements for oil fuel
In a ship in which oil fuel is used, the arrangements for the storage, distribution and utilization of the oil fuel shall be such as to ensure the safety of the ship and persons on board and shall at least comply with the following provisions.

2.2.1 Location of oil fuel systems
As far as practicable, parts of the oil fuel system containing heated oil under pressure exceeding 0.18 N/mm2 shall not be placed in a concealed position such that defects and leakage cannot readily be observed. The machinery spaces in way of such parts of the oil fuel system shall be adequately illuminated.

2.2.2 Ventilation of machinery spaces
The ventilation of machinery spaces shall be sufficient under normal conditions to prevent accumulation of oil vapour.
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发表于 2021-8-21 17:29 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江嘉兴
江海直达 发表于 2021-8-21 17:27
通篇阅读,就不会觉得有奇异和相互矛盾的地方:
Regulation 4 - Probability of ignition
Parent topic: ...

续上楼瘦拉萨的条款:
2.2.3 Oil fuel tanks
  2.2.3.1 Fuel oil, lubrication oil and other flammable oils shall not be carried in forepeak tanks.

  2.2.3.2 As far as practicable, oil fuel tanks shall be part of the ship's structure and shall be located outside machinery spaces of category A. Where oil fuel tanks, other than double bottom tanks, are necessarily located adjacent to or within machinery spaces of category A, at least one of their vertical sides shall be contiguous to the machinery space boundaries, and shall preferably have a common boundary with the double bottom tanks, and the area of the tank boundary common with the machinery spaces shall be kept to a minimumfootnote. Where such tanks are situated within the boundaries of machinery spaces of category A they shall not contain oil fuel having a flashpoint of less than 60°C. In general, the use of free-standing oil fuel tanks shall be avoided. When such tanks are employed their use shall be prohibited in category A machinery spaces on passenger ships. Where permitted, they shall be placed in an oil-tight spill tray of ample size having a suitable drain pipe leading to a suitably sized spill oil tank.

  2.2.3.3 No oil fuel tank shall be situated where spillage or leakage therefrom can constitute a fire or explosion hazard by falling on heated surfaces.

  2.2.3.4 Oil fuel pipes, which, if damaged, would allow oil to escape from a storage, settling or daily service tank having a capacity of 500 l and above situated above the double bottom, shall be fitted with a cock or valve directly on the tank capable of being closed from a safe position outside the space concerned in the event of a fire occurring in the space in which such tanks are situated. In the special case of deep tanks situated in any shaft or pipe tunnel or similar space, valves on the tank shall be fitted, but control in the event of fire may be effected by means of an additional valve on the pipe or pipes outside the tunnel or similar space. If such an additional valve is fitted in the machinery space it shall be operated from a position outside this space. The controls for remote operation of the valve for the emergency generator fuel tank shall be in a separate location from the controls for remote operation of other valves for tanks located in machinery spaces.

  2.2.3.5 Safe and efficient means of ascertaining the amount of oil fuel contained in any oil fuel tank shall be provided.

  2.2.3.5.1 Where sounding pipes are used, they shall not terminate in any space where the risk of ignition of spillage from the sounding pipe might arise. In particular, they shall not terminate in passenger or crew spaces. As a general rule, they shall not terminate in machinery spaces. However, where the Administration considers that these latter requirements are impracticable, it may permit termination of sounding pipes in machinery spaces on condition that all of the following requirements are met:

.1 an oil-level gauge is provided meeting the requirements of paragraph 2.2.3.5.2;

.2 the sounding pipes terminate in locations remote from ignition hazards unless precautions are taken, such as the fitting of effective screens, to prevent the oil fuel in the case of spillage through the terminations of the sounding pipes from coming into contact with a source of ignition; and

.3 the termination of sounding pipes are fitted with self-closing blanking devices and with a small-diameter self-closing control cock located below the blanking device for the purpose of ascertaining before the blanking device is opened that oil fuel is not present. Provisions shall be made so as to ensure that any spillage of oil fuel through the control cock involves no ignition hazard.

  2.2.3.5.2 Other oil-level gauges may be used in place of sounding pipes subject to the following conditions:

.1 in passenger ships, such gauges shall not require penetration below the top of the tank and their failure or overfilling of the tanks shall not permit release of fuel; and

.2 in cargo ships, the failure of such gauges or overfilling of the tank shall not permit release of fuel into the space. The use of cylindrical gauge glasses is prohibited. The Administration may permit the use of oil-level gauges with flat glasses and self-closing valves between the gauges and fuel tanks.

  2.2.3.5.3 The means prescribed in paragraph 2.2.3.5.2 which are acceptable to the Administration shall be maintained in the proper condition to ensure their continued accurate functioning in service.

2.2.4 Prevention of overpressure
Provisions shall be made to prevent overpressure in any oil tank or in any part of the oil fuel system, including the filling pipes served by pumps on board. Air and overflow pipes and relief valves shall discharge to a position where there is no risk of fire or explosion from the emergence of oils and vapour and shall not lead into crew spaces, passenger spaces nor into special category spaces, closed ro-ro cargo spaces, machinery spaces or similar spaces.
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发表于 2021-8-21 17:34 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江嘉兴
原条款原文翻译:

2 油类燃料、润滑油和其他易燃油的布置
2.1 使用油作为燃料的限制
以下限制适用于使用油作为燃料:

.1 除本条另有允许外,不得使用闪点低于 60°C 的燃油;脚注

.2 在应急发电机中,可以使用闪点不低于 43°C 的燃油;

.3 可允许使用闪点低于 60°C 但不低于 43°C 的油类燃料(例如,用于为应急消防泵的发动机和不在类别机器处所内的辅助机器供油A) 符合以下条件:

.3.1 除布置在双层底舱内的燃油舱外,燃油舱应位于 A 类机器处所外;

.3.2 在燃油泵的吸入管上设有测量油温的规定;

.3.3 在燃油滤网的入口侧和出口侧设有截止阀和/或旋塞;和

.3.4 尽可能采用焊接结构的管接头或圆锥型或球型活接接头;

.4 在第 II-1 章 G 部分不适用的货船上,可以允许使用闪点低于第 2.1.1 段规定的油类燃料,例如原油,条件是这种燃料是不存放在任何机器处所,并须经主管机关批准完成安装;和

.5 在适用第 II-1 章 G 部分的船舶中,允许使用闪点低于第 2.1.1 条规定的燃油。
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发表于 2021-8-21 17:38 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江嘉兴
断章取义的话,容易使人觉得矛盾,结合上下文,所述条款是指,使用低于60度高于43度闪点油料的规定!
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发表于 2021-8-21 17:39 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江嘉兴
我就纳闷,提个问题还匿名怕羞不成!
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发表于 2021-8-21 19:02 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国山东威海
江海直达 发表于 2021-08-21 17:39
我就纳闷,提个问题还匿名怕羞不成!

     以前就曾给网管提过意见,入网匿名本身就是对网站的"歧视"(不尊重),网站也黏黏糊糊(无骨头)没有设置该项"门槛",结合网站设置的种种不尽人意之囧事(提了诸多建议也不采纳改进),该平台想提升自身形象还有很长的路要走。
     我从不在匿名楼主下回帖(我不想看不起自己)。
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发表于 2021-8-22 10:36 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏南京
文字比较饶,联系上下文多看看就知道了。
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