通函文件号中MSC和MSC.1

luoning909 · 发表于 2019-8-8 14:56

如题，IMO海安会发布的通函中，有的文件号是MSC/Circular.xxxx，有的是MSC.1/Circular.xxxx。这里的“MSC”和“MSC.1”有什么不同？

hugh777 · 发表于 2019-8-8 23:13

原来就只有MSC/Circ.XXX，后来为了各个专题分类需要，就有了MSC.2~6，这样一来，原来的MSC就只好变成MSC.1了。也就是说：现在出来的MSC.1的通函(自MSC.1/Circ,1180以后吧)就是原来的MSC/Circ.XXX.所以，文件号的编排是个大问题。连IMO也会没有预想好的。这也是很好的结果了。你再看一下CCS的文件编号，就知道文件编号有多难了！

补充内容 (2019-8-20 14:41):
自MSC.1/Circ.1182以后是加.1了

留得残荷听雨声 · 发表于 2019-8-9 06:09

hugh777 发表于 2019-8-8 23:13
原来就只有MSC/Circ.XXX，后来为了各个专题分类需要，就有了MSC.2~6，这样一来，原来的MSC就只好变成MSC.1 ...

因此，理解公约和规范应多从立意原则和要义、定义理念去解读而不能拘泥于某一具体条款的因编号(或转述编号条文)及表述有误(语法)而‘’照本宣科‘’，譬如规范对油舱溢流管条文的表述...。

hugh777 · 发表于 2019-8-9 06:28

留得残荷听雨声发表于 2019-8-9 06:09
因此，理解公约和规范应多从立意原则和要义、定义理念去解读而不能拘泥于某一具体条款的因编号(或 ...

什么意思啊？

留得残荷听雨声 · 发表于 2019-8-9 06:46

hugh777 发表于 2019-8-9 06:28
什么意思啊？

仅接个话茬而已(在另贴的感受)。

zzt.win · 发表于 2019-8-9 14:02

hugh777 发表于 2019-8-8 23:13
原来就只有MSC/Circ.XXX，后来为了各个专题分类需要，就有了MSC.2~6，这样一来，原来的MSC就只好变成MSC.1 ...

学习了，对规范的演变历史又了解一下。

江海直达 · 发表于 2019-8-9 17:01

MSC Circulars

As obvious, MSC circulars are related to the maritime safety. The MSC has divided its circulars in six sub-categories and are numbered from one to six. Any MSC circular number would look like this

MSC Circular number

In this MSC ofcourse denotes that it is circular issued by Maritime safety committe of IMO.

The number 1 denotes the sub-category of the circular. ‘Circ.’ tells us that it is a circular and the number in the last is the circular number which is numbered in chronological order.

The six sub categories that MSC circulars are divided into are
MSC.1 : Circulars related to general information disseminated by MSC on safety matters
MSC.2 : Circulars related to MSC- Implementation of codes and recommendations adopted by the assembly
MSC.3 : Circulars on Illegal immigrants
MSC.4 : Circulars on piracy matters
MSC.5 : Circulars related to resolution 950(23) which is “Maritime assisstance services
MSC.6 : Other circulars related to safety

要是英文有问题，若需要可以进一步给你解释。 1178号通告之后的时间点，所出的通告，全部按以上功能分类。比如我刚才在读一个：MSC.6/Circular-MSC.6/Circular.19 – AIS Discrepancy Reports – (13 January 2014)October to December 2013 (Quarterly Report)
Circular：附：MSC/Circular.1178 – Unified Interpretations of SOLAS Regulations XII/4.2 and XII/5.2 – (25 May 2005)

江海直达 · 发表于 2019-8-9 17:07

江海直达发表于 2019-8-9 17:01
MSC Circulars

As obvious, MSC circulars are related to the maritime safety. The MSC has divided ...

值得再普及一下MEPC 通告的分类：

MEPC Circular

Again as obvious, MEPC circulars are related to information on matters concerning maritime pollution. MEPC circulars are divided into seven sub-categories. These categories are numbered from one to seven. Any circular issued by MEPC would look like this

MEPC circular number

In this MEPC denotes that the circular is issued by Maritime environmenta protection committee.

The number next is the number of sub-category that the circular belongs to. The letters ‘Circ’ detones that it is a circular and finally the number is the circular number which is in chronological order.

The seven Sub-categories that MEPC circulars are divided into are
MEPC.1 : Circular relating to general information disseminated by the MEPC on pollution matters
MEPC.2 : Circular relating to Provisional categorization of liquid substances
MEPC.3 : Circular relating to Facilities in ports for the reception of oily wastes from ships
MEPC.4 : Circular relating to Facilities in ports for the reception of noxious liquid substances (NLS) residues from ships carrying chemicals in bulk
MEPC.5 : Circular relating to Pollution prevention equipment required by MARPOL
MEPC.6 : Circular relating to List of national operational contact point or points responsible for the receipt, transmission and processing of urgent reports on incidents involving harmful substances including oil from ships to coastal states
MEPC.7 : Circular relating to Maritime Environment Protection Committee on pollution matters

We have only discussed the MSC and MEPC circulars. But there are more than 50 categories in which IMO circular are divided.

Each category has again different sub-categories like we have for MSC and MEPC circulars.

江海直达 · 发表于 2019-8-9 21:47

见七楼答复，我就分一半奖励分吧。

hugh777 · 发表于 2019-8-20 14:34

江海直达发表于 2019-8-9 21:47
见七楼答复，我就分一半奖励分吧。

这不是全你的了吗？！7-8楼都是你们家的。

江海直达 · 发表于 2019-8-20 15:18

hugh777 发表于 2019-8-20 14:34
这不是全你的了吗？！7-8楼都是你们家的。

我是知识的传播者而已。凡事都自己打字，太辛苦。就连医生，现在都不在病历上写字。

hugh777 · 发表于 2019-8-20 16:14

江海直达发表于 2019-8-20 15:18
我是知识的传播者而已。凡事都自己打字，太辛苦。就连医生，现在都不在病历上写字。

难以上面的文字全是你打出来的哦！IMO网站上拷下来的吧？！

江海直达 · 发表于 2019-8-20 20:39

hugh777 发表于 2019-8-20 16:14
难以上面的文字全是你打出来的哦！IMO网站上拷下来的吧？！

IMO网站上，没有我所粘贴的内容。
从一个专业网站下载，有兴趣我贴出链接。

hugh777 · 发表于 2019-9-7 06:30

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这个是IMO网站上的。与你的好像有点不一样哦！2019-08-19的

转身沧桑 · 发表于 2023-2-27 16:32

IMO官网的MSC.X/Circ.XX文件放在哪儿啊，怎么找不到呢。。。

[IMO决议、通函] 通函文件号中MSC和MSC.1