中国两大船厂已获航母订单

tangkanglin · 发表于 2009-12-14 20:13

美国环球战略网援引消息称，中国海军已经订购两艘6万吨级航母，订单已正式下发到江南造船厂和大连造船厂,相关建造工作将于明年初开始，2016年完成。

文章透露，中国已经与俄罗斯海军建筑公司取得了联系，可能已经获得了“库兹涅佐夫级”航母装备的设计图与相关技术。
中国将为这两艘航母购买50架俄制苏-33战机，而其海军航空兵则会利用此前从乌克兰购买的“瓦良格”号(Varyag)航母进行训练，学习如何在航母上起降苏-33战机。中国官员最近参观了乌克兰的舰载机飞行员培训中心。乌克兰希望将其建造于苏联时代的海军航空兵训练设施，打造成国际航母飞行员训练中心。

在谈到中国建造航母的目的时，文章引用中国军官的话称，中国需要航母，以保护中国进口原材料(尤其是石油)的海上通道的安全。文章指出，中国希望从俄罗斯产生商那里获得航母的关键零部件。如果可能的话，航母建造完工的时间可能会提前一至两年。

文章称，中国在三个月前宣布其首批航母飞行员开始在大连舰艇学院训练，其飞行员将在那里接受为期四年的舰载机飞行专业培训。中国已经在内陆建造了一个模拟航母甲板。
虽然俄罗斯此前曾提醒过中国，称其可能需要十年甚至更长的时间，才能够完全掌握可以有效利用航母的相关知识与技能，但中国人正在勇敢尝试，奋勇向前。目前，中国翻新了“瓦良格”号航母，重新将其命名为“施琅”号，舷号为83。据估计，该航母可以随时进行试航。
文章介绍说，“瓦良格”号航母是苏联于上世纪八十年代建造的“库兹涅佐夫级”航母中的一艘。当时，苏联设想把该级航母建造成一种9万吨级的核动力航母，性能与美国配备有蒸汽弹射器的航母相似。不过，由于资金紧缺，再加上现代航母的复杂性，苏联被迫降低标准。最终，该级航母在建造完成后为65000吨级，且放弃配备蒸汽弹射器，转而采用滑跳式甲板。

尽管如此，“库兹涅佐夫”级航母的设计方案仍然令人惊叹。通常，千米长的航母能够搭载12架Su-27战机、14架Ka-27PL“螺旋”舰载反潜直升机、两架电子战直升机以及两架搜救直升机。该级航母最多能搭载高达36架苏33战机与16架直升机。“库兹涅佐夫”级航母携带2500吨航空燃料，足够舰载飞机与直升机出击500至1000架次。此外，该级航母还能够搭载2500名舰员(满载时可达到3000名)。目前，该级航母只存在两艘，一艘为在俄罗斯海军服役的“库兹涅佐夫上将”号航母，另外一艘即为“瓦良格”航母。
文章最后称，中国已经与俄罗斯海军建筑公司取得了联系，可能已经获得了“库兹涅佐夫级”航母装备的设计图与相关技术。文章指出，一些中国官员曾笑谈其到2010年之时会列装第一艘航母，即翻新后的“瓦良格”号。

对此，文章称，对中国来说，即使翻新瓦良格号航母也是富有挑战性的任务，中国要想拥有自己的航母，必须突破大量的技术限制。

liumep · 发表于 2009-12-14 20:33

第一个看的楼主留下的消息，为之振奋！

翼之航 · 发表于 2009-12-14 20:44

顶，好消息啊

yahoo! · 发表于 2009-12-14 20:46

正义战胜邪恶，民主战胜专政。NHSLTB WZD NGSB

tiger312335 · 发表于 2009-12-14 20:52

希望我们的航母早点下水啊!

qinshjie · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:00

老外的新闻就像娱乐节目，能信吗？

歪歪唧唧 · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:10

娱乐？
娱乐！

caizhimin · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:21

是啊，不可深信

龙83311 · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:25

不太可能，一下子六艘？？？

w13019948599 · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:39

的确是好消息

沧海水 · 发表于 2009-12-14 21:53

听听就好！！！……

nautilus · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:15

China Builds A Pair
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http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200911722636.asp

by James Dunnigan
January 17, 2009
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January 2, 2009:  In Shanghai, China, shipyard employees report that the Chinese Navy has ordered two 60,000 ton aircraft carriers, and preparations are under way to begin construction this year, with completion scheduled for 2015. Fifty Russian Su-33 jet fighters would be imported to serve on the new carriers. Chinese naval aviators would use the former Russian carrier Varyag as a training ship, to learn how to operate the Su-33s off carriers. Recently, Chinese officials visited Ukraine and inspected the naval aviation training facilities that were built there before the Soviet Union dissolved (and Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union). Ukraine wants to use those facilities to establish an international center for training carrier aviators.

Chinese admirals have said they need carriers to assure Chinese access to raw materials, especially oil, that comes by sea. China hopes to get key components for the carrier from Russian manufacturers. If that is possible, completion of the carriers might be speeded up by a year or two.

Three months ago, China announced that its first class of carrier aviators had begun training at the Dalian Naval Academy. The naval officers will undergo a four year course of instruction to turn them into fighter pilots capable of operating off a carrier. China already has an airfield, in the shape of a carrier deck, built at an inland facility. The Russians have warned China that it may take them a decade or more to develop the knowledge and skills needed to efficiently run an aircraft carrier. The Chinese are game, and are slogging forward.

A year ago, the Russian aircraft carrier Varyag was renamed the Shi Lang (after the Chinese general who took possession of Taiwan in 1681, the first time China ever paid any attention to the island) and given the pennant number 83. The Chinese have been refurbishing the Varyag, one of the Kuznetsov class that Russia began building in the 1980s, for several years now. It is expected to be ready for sea trials any day now.

Originally the Kuznetsovs were conceived of as 90,000 ton, nuclear powered ships, similar to American carriers (complete with steam catapults). Instead, because of the cost, and the complexity of modern (American style) carriers, the Russians were forced to scale back their goals, and ended up with the 65,000 ton (full load ) ships that lacked steam catapults, and used a ski jump type flight deck instead. Nuclear power was dropped, but the Kuznetsov class was still a formidable design. The thousand foot long carrier normally carries a dozen navalized Su-27s (called Su-33s), 14 Ka-27PL anti-submarine helicopters, two electronic warfare helicopters and two search and rescue helicopters. But the ship can carry up to 36 Su-33s and sixteen helicopters. The ship carries 2,500 tons of aviation fuel, allowing it to generate 500-1,000 aircraft and helicopter sorties. Crew size is 2,500 (or 3,000 with a full aircraft load.) Only two ships of this class exist; the original Kuznetsov, which is in Russian service, and the Varyag.

The Chinese have been in touch with Russian naval construction firms, and may have purchased plans and technology for equipment installed in the Kuznetsov. Some Chinese leaders have quipped about having a carrier by 2010 (this would have to be a refurbished Varyag). Even that would be an ambitious schedule, and the Chinese have been burned before when they tried to build new military technology in a hurry.



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nautilus · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:17

Chinese Carrier Goes Into Dry Dock
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April 30, 2009: China has moved its aircraft carrier, the Shi Lang, into dry dock, apparently to install engines and other heavy equipment. A year ago, the Russian aircraft carrier Varyag was renamed the Shi Lang (after the Chinese general who took possession of Taiwan in 1681, the first time China ever paid any attention to the island) and given the pennant number 83. The Chinese have been refurbishing the Varyag, one of the Kuznetsov class that Russia began building in the 1980s, for five years now. It is expected to be ready for sea trials by the end of the year. Maybe. No one is sure exactly what plans the Chinese have for the Shi Lang, although work has been going on for years, and it's believed that the carrier will eventually be used to train the first generation of Chinese carrier aviators and sailors.
The Varyag has been tied up in a Chinese shipyard at Dailan since 2002. While the ship is under guard, it can be seen from a nearby highway. From that vantage point, local military and naval buffs have noted that some kind of work is being done on the ship. The only visible signs of this work are a new paint job (in the gray shade used by the Chinese navy) and ongoing work on the superstructure (particularly the tall island on the flight deck.) Many workers can be seen on the ship, and material is seen going into (new stuff) and out of (old stuff) the ship. Shipyard workers report ever tighter security on the carriers, and stern instructions to workers to not report details of what is happening on the carriers.

Originally the Kuznetsovs were to be 90,000 ton, nuclear powered ships, similar to American carriers (complete with steam catapults). Instead, because of the high cost, and the complexity of modern (American style) carriers, the Russians were forced to scale back their plans, and ended up with the 65,000 ton (full load ) ships that lacked steam catapults, and used a ski jump type flight deck instead. Nuclear power was dropped, but the Kuznetsov class was still a formidable design. The thousand foot long carrier normally carries a dozen navalized Su-27s (called Su-33s), 14 Ka-27PL anti-submarine helicopters, two electronic warfare helicopters and two search and rescue helicopters. But the ship can carry up to 36 Su-33s and sixteen helicopters. The ship carries 2,500 tons of aviation fuel, allowing it to generate 500-1,000 aircraft and helicopter sorties. Crew size is 2,500 (or 3,000 with a full aircraft load.) Only two ships of this class exist; the original Kuznetsov, which is in Russian service, and the Varyag. Currently, the Kuznetsov is operating in the Mediterranean.

The Chinese have been in touch with Russian naval construction firms, and may have purchased plans and technology for equipment installed in the Kuznetsov. Some Chinese leaders have quipped about having a carrier by 2010 (this would have to be a refurbished Varyag). Even that would be an ambitious schedule, and the Chinese have been burned before when they tried to build new military technology in a hurry.

Late last year, China announced that its first class of carrier aviators had begun training at the Dalian Naval Academy. The naval officers will undergo a four year course of instruction to turn them into fighter pilots capable of operating off a carrier. China already has an airfield, in the shape of a carrier deck, built at an inland facility. The Russians have warned China that it may take them a decade or more to develop the knowledge and skills needed to efficiently run an aircraft carrier. The Chinese are game, and are slogging forward.

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碧海一舟 · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:18

难以置信

nautilus · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:28

美国环球战略网《中国滑跃起飞跑道曝光》
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飞行甲板, 美国环球战略网, 中国航母, 瓦良格
美国环球战略网8月12号刊登了名为《中国滑跃起飞跑道曝光》文章。文章认为，最近发现的那张由商业卫星“奇迹般”所摄到，很可能是中国在实验其航空母舰滑跃型飞行甲板的照片，被认为是中国正在对其苏-30战斗机和滑跃型航空母舰甲板的设计进行试验性活动的佐证。中国预计在未来几个月里就将拥有一艘拥有实际作战能力的航空母舰，并且肯定将会使用滑跃起飞跑道，而不是选择蒸汽弹射起飞技术。

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　　有人曾经怀疑中国为实现其航母梦想，应该会在某处设有滑跃起飞跑道的训练设施及基地。现在通过这张照片，该基地的位置已被找到，就在西安阎良。令人奇怪的是这个基地是坐落在的近500米海拔高度之上。通常拥有航母的国家都将其航母飞行员训练基地设置在接近海平面的地域。该文作者认为，或许是因为阎良是一个多风的地区，其风速和环境与航母真实起降时所遇到的典型风速很相似，这就使得飞行员在该基地所进行固定滑跃跑道起飞训练科目时能感受到更为真实的情况，以便飞行员熟练掌握在航母上的起降技术。
　　去年年底，中国宣布本国第一批航空母舰飞行员已经开始在大连海军舰艇学院进行培训。这些相关人员将接受为期4年课教学培训，以使他们成为能在航空母舰上熟练操作战斗机的合格飞行员。不过，文章称俄罗斯已在此前提醒过中国：发展一支掌握所需的知识和技能，能够熟练驾驭航空母舰舰载战斗机的飞行员队伍可能要花费十年甚至更长时间。作者认为中国的只有4年的短期培训是在“赌博”，不过这也反映了中国人对航母梦的迫切渴望，及在艰苦条件下“小步快跑”的奋斗精神。
　　今年早些时候，由前苏联制造航空母舰“瓦良格”号（Varyag）在改装后被中国命名为“施琅”号（施琅：中国清朝水军着名将领，于1681年受康熙帝令，一举收复殖民者妄图占领的台湾岛），中国海军将其编号定为“83”。中方已对“瓦良格”号进行了整修。预计在今年年底准备试航。
　　“瓦良格”号是俄罗斯“库兹涅佐夫”级航母之一，始建于上世纪80年代，起初“瓦良格”号航母的设计排水量是9万吨，采用核动力，并装配类似美国的蒸汽弹射器。但由于成本太高，俄罗斯只得降低标准，不仅放弃了核动力设计，满载排水量最后被设计成6.5万吨，蒸汽弹射器也没有采用，代之以滑跃式起飞甲板。由于苏联垮台等因素影响，该舰至今已经断断停停建设多年。虽然核动力没有采用，但这艘库兹涅佐夫级航母的设计依然令人生畏。该型300多米长的航母可搭载最多36架苏-27舰载机(后被命名为苏-33)，14架卡-27PL反潜直升机，两架电子战直升机，及两架搜救直升机，可携带2500吨燃料，可为500-1000架次的飞机提供燃料。该航母设计乘员2500名（当满载战机时，乘员可达3000人）。目前该级别航母只有两艘;第一艘“库兹涅佐夫”号（Kuznetsov）航母在俄罗斯海军服役，另一艘就是“瓦良格”号。目前，“库兹涅佐夫”号航母正在地中海执行巡逻任务。
　　“瓦良格”号航母自2002年购至乌克兰后就一直停泊在中国的大连港。之后受到特殊保卫，热情的人们只能从附近高速公路上一览它的身影。从那时候起，当地军迷们注意到，工作人员正在对“瓦良格”号航母进行某些处理。最为明显特征就是该舰已船厂涂成中国海军常用的浅灰色涂装；其次就是工程人员对岛式上层建筑的改装。人们可以在远处看到舰上有很多工作人员，以及还有很多造舰材料进进出出“瓦良格”号航母所在的码头，新的建造合同被认为是为“瓦良格”号航母添置更多的设备直接证据，包括很多“非常规”材料也被运抵至“瓦良格”号航母。
　　文章称中国方面已与俄罗斯造船企业接触，或许已经引进了“瓦良格”号航母上所需装备的图纸和技术。一些中国领导人已经非正式的表示，在2010年就将拥有一艘航母了（指的就是这艘翻新的“瓦良格”号）。
　　在文章最后，作者认为中国正处于急于获得新军事技术和力量的阶段。中国拥有航空母舰很显然是一个“雄心勃勃”的计划，这个庞大国家的各部分都在热火朝天等待着航母正式出现。
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nautilus · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:30

无论如何，我希望梦想有一天能成真！

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nautilus · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:33

美媒猜测:瓦良格航母将正式更名为“施琅”号
http://mil.huanqiu.com/hwtzg/naval/2008-04/97088.html
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资料图：中国购买的瓦良格号退役航母

　　美国环球战略网1月9日刊登文章说，瓦良格号航母上的工作人员透露，这艘购自俄罗斯的航母不久将正式更名，新的名字叫做“施琅号”（施琅：清朝水军著名将领，1681年领命康熙帝，武力统一当时企图割据的台湾）。
　　文章说，瓦良格号航母是两艘俄制“库兹涅佐夫”级航母之一，从2002年开始，该航母停泊到中国大连港，并受到特殊保卫，人们只能从远处一览它的身影。
　　从那时候起，当地军迷们注意到，工作人员正在对瓦良格号航母作某些处理，最明显的就是该航母的新涂装，它被涂成中国海军常用的浅灰色，再就是对其岛式上层建筑的改装。
　　人们可以看到军舰上有很多工作人员，还有很多造舰材料进进出出瓦良格号航母，同时，一些“非常规”材料也被运抵瓦良格号航母。
　　起初，瓦良格号航母的设计排水量是9万吨，采用核动力，并装配类似美国的蒸汽弹射器，但由于成本太高，俄罗斯只得降低标准，不仅放弃了核动力设计，满载排水量最后被设计成6.5万吨，蒸汽弹射器也没有采用，代之以滑跃式起飞甲板。
　　虽然核动力没有采用，但瓦良格号航母依然令人生畏。这种300多米长的航母可搭载多架苏-33舰载机(最多可搭载36架)，14架卡-27PL反潜直升机，两架电子战直升机，以及两架搜救直升机，可携带2500吨燃料，可为500-1000架次的飞机提供燃料。
　　该航母设计乘员2500名（当满载战机时，乘员可达3000人）。
　　瓦良格号航母的“兄弟”——另外一艘库兹涅佐夫级航母库兹涅佐夫号，目前正在地中海执行巡逻任务。
　　中国已与俄罗斯造船企业接触，或许已引进了瓦良格号航母上所需装备的图纸和技术。
　　文章最后说，此前中国曾传出，2010年前中国将有一艘航母，看来，中国或许“有个雄心勃勃的规划”。
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ericcx · 发表于 2009-12-14 22:35

不错啊支持造航母看谁欺负我们就打他！

RP2 · 发表于 2009-12-15 04:02

waste cash...

金陵老船工 · 发表于 2009-12-15 07:14

100%的假消息，海军装备部从来不可能同时立项同规格两个型号的水面作战舰艇。一个型号也不可能同时在两个船厂开工，一般都是由一个船厂先开工，如果有必要第二艘一般也是延时几年在另一个船厂开工。假新闻都编不象。