请教个组合报警的问题

guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-14 16:29

风电平台，组合报警装置，具体有弃船报警，通用报警，co2报警，火灾报警，机械故障报警，电话呼叫。这里面的弃船报警的声音波形有知道的么?另外，在有弃船报警，又配备通用报警，请问这里通用报警的意义是什么?

labilaoxin · 发表于 2017-9-14 16:35

弃船一短一长
通用七短一长

guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-14 16:54

labilaoxin 发表于 2017-9-14 16:35
弃船一短一长
通用七短一长

弃船的图标是什么样的?一长一短的频率是多少?还有通用报警的意义是啥?

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-14 17:02

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guduhanyu 发表于 2017-9-14 16:54
弃船的图标是什么样的?一长一短的频率是多少?还有通用报警的意义是啥?

IMO Resolution: alert code A.1021 (26)

6.6. On mobile offshore drilling units (MODUs), where supplemental visual indicators are installed for general emergency alarms, the colour of these supplemental indicators may be amber, provided they flash with a pulse frequency of at least 4 Hz.

5.9. The general emergency alarm, fire alarm (if not incorporated in the general emergency alarm system), fire-extinguishing medium alarm and machinery alarm should be so arranged that the failure of the power supply or the signal-generating and amplifying equipment (if any) to one will not affect the performance of the others. Where common audible signals and call devices are installed in accordance with 5.1, arrangements should be provided to minimize the effect of such devices’ failure.

5.10. The performance standards and functional requirements of the general emergency alarm are specified in the LSA Code, chapter VII, section 7.2[/url]. In addition, the sound pressure level should be in the 1/3-octave band about the fundamental frequency. In no case should the level of an audible signal in a space exceed 120 dB(A).

5.11. With the exception of bells, audible signals should have a signal frequency between 200 Hz and 2,500 Hz.

5.12. For the audible presentation of alerts on the navigation bridge, the requirements of resolution MSC.191(79)[/url], MSC/Circ.982, resolution A.694(17) resolution MSC.252(83)[/url] where applicable to ships with Integrated Navigation Systems (INS), and, where fitted, the requirements of a bridge alert management system, should be observed.

5.13. For the audible presentation of navigational alerts on the bridge the sound pressure should be at least 75 dB(A) but not greater than 85 dB(A) at a distance of one metre from the systems. Alternatively, it may be allowed to adjust the sound pressure to at least 10 dB(A) above the ambient noise level instead, if the ambient sound pressure on the bridge can be determined. The upper noise level should not exceed 85 dB(A).

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-14 18:10

labilaoxin 发表于 2017-9-14 16:35
弃船一短一长
通用七短一长

别的的不行吗？如连续的警报声？

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-14 18:20

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一般理解,general emergency alarm 就是招呼人员包括旅客去集合点，也可以理解（也就是）是弃船的警报信号。没见过设置你所说的两种报警。你能贴出图吗？让人评判。
这个回帖，仅仅适用于船舶。

AHTS-PSV · 发表于 2017-9-15 08:39

江海直达发表于 2017-9-14 18:20
一般理解,general emergency alarm 就是招呼人员包括旅客去集合点，也可以理解（也就是）是弃船的警报信号 ...

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guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-15 10:00

AHTS-PSV 发表于 2017-9-15 08:39

厉害，我也是第一次看到这样的

guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-15 10:00

江海直达发表于 2017-9-14 18:20
一般理解,general emergency alarm 就是招呼人员包括旅客去集合点，也可以理解（也就是）是弃船的警报信号 ...

没图，协议上要求的

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-15 10:32

AHTS-PSV 发表于 2017-9-15 08:39

确实见过。我的理解，琥珀红的哪个，并不是IMO推荐的指示标识，但平台上有使用，alert code里指出，弃船应急报警的声音可以不是七短一长，可以是specific code as per muster list,而IMO推荐的muster list 的标准格式里，关于弃船应急报警的声光信号可以自行定义，这样一来，平台上使用红色那个加一短一长声音报警，普遍使用。

远通小马哥 · 发表于 2017-9-15 11:11

红色的那个是吧

guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-15 12:03

江海直达发表于 2017-9-15 10:32
确实见过。我的理解，琥珀红的哪个，并不是IMO推荐的指示标识，但平台上有使用，alert code里指出，弃船 ...

在平台上，通用报警可以理解成紧急集合?

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-15 13:30

guduhanyu 发表于 2017-9-15 12:03
在平台上，通用报警可以理解成紧急集合?

那么，平台上紧急集合报警，用啥声光信号？平台上的“弃船”又是使用啥声光信号，还是用广播通知撤离？
不讨论，不明了！谢

guduhanyu · 发表于 2017-9-15 14:12

江海直达发表于 2017-9-15 13:30
那么，平台上紧急集合报警，用啥声光信号？平台上的“弃船”又是使用啥声光信号，还是用广播通知撤离？
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哈哈，被你这么一说，我也是一脸懵逼啊

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-15 14:25

guduhanyu 发表于 2017-9-15 14:12
哈哈，被你这么一说，我也是一脸懵逼啊

那么，就再查资料了？

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-15 15:24

本帖最后由江海直达于 2017-9-15 15:48 编辑

见图片中的文件说明。这样看来，你的平台上哪个总报警，指的是炭氢化合物的气体探测报警。

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-15 16:13

江海直达发表于 2017-9-15 15:24
见图片中的文件说明。这样看来，你的平台上哪个总报警，指的是炭氢化合物的气体探测报警。

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The general emergency signal is a signal used on board ships in times of emergency.
The signal is composed of seven or more short blasts followed by one long blast on the ship's whistle and internal alarm system. Within 24 hours of embarkation of all passengers, the crew will conduct a mandatory muster drill in which the General Emergency Signal is sounded. The purpose of the drill is to educate passengers of emergency procedures should an actual emergency occur. The signal alerts passengers of an emergency so that they will begin proper procedures in which all persons collect their life jackets and proceed to their assigned muster stations.
There is also an abandon ship alarm which is used should it become necessary to abandon ship, after all other efforts have been exhausted. This signal is given audibly by the ship's Master (aka Captain) over the PA system. It is never given by automatic means or with recorded media.
Requirements on General Alarm Systems according to the Safety Of Life At Sea (SOLAS) Convention:
1. General Alarm Systems on the Open Deck of New Cargo and Passenger Ships according to the SOLAS Chapter III, Reg. 6.4.3
and the Life Saving Appliances (LSACode), App. 7, Reg. 7.2 the signals issued via the general alarm system shall be audible
in all accommodation and normal working spaces of the crew as well as on the open deck.
The sound pressure level shall be in compliance with LSA-Code 7.2.1.2 - “Recognisability of Audible Alarms”- such that the alarm level is 10 dB(A) over the ambient level.
It shall be possible to trigger the alarms both via an automatic signal generator or by hand. The alarms may be interrupted temporarily by announcements made over the loudspeaker installation.
On the open decks of cargo ships, the signals are triggered by the automatic signal generator and generated by the general alarm system can either be produced by the whistle or by sirens. The sirens shall be located at uniform distances spread over the open deck. It shall be possible to interrupt the driving of the whistle by the automatic signal generator by means of a non-locking pushbutton or a switch or a locking pushbutton.
According to SOLAS Ch. 6.4.2 the general alarm system shall be capable of operation from the navigating bridge and also from other “strategic points”.
Triggering of the automatic signal generator shall only be provided on the navigating bridge. A “strategic point” has been accurately defined in LSA Code, App. 7.2.
General Alarm on the Open Deck and Broadcast Systems (Loudspeaker Installations) on Existing Passenger Ships.
The alarm shall be audible in all accommodation spaces, all normal working spaces of the crew and on all open decks, and its sound pressure level shall be at least 75 dB(A) or 10 dB(A) above the ambient noise level (see LSA-Code App.7.2 and IMO Alarm Code, No. 4.11). The accommodation spaces also include the cabins and living areas as well as the public spaces of the passengers.

张三卖瓜 · 发表于 2017-9-18 08:48

弃船报警一般的平台会有联锁信号到应急切断系统，会切断全船所有重要的设备包括所有UPS和所有发电机；
通用报警，只是让船员在规定地点集合，不会切断设备。

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-18 09:12

张三卖瓜发表于 2017-9-18 08:48
弃船报警一般的平台会有联锁信号到应急切断系统，会切断全船所有重要的设备包括所有UPS和所有发电机；
通 ...

搞过平台的人，就是懂得多一层。三级应急切断逻辑是咋回事，给网友普及一下。

江海直达 · 发表于 2017-9-18 10:17

江海直达发表于 2017-9-15 15:24
见图片中的文件说明。这样看来，你的平台上哪个总报警，指的是炭氢化合物的气体探测报警。

你的哪个总报警，在平台手动执行应急切断时，也被触发报警。